Hi ,,,i am 23 yrs old,,and have a herniated disc at l4/l5 and l5/s1 since last 2 yrs?
Hi ,,,i am 23 yrs old,,and have a herniated disc at l4/l5 and l5/s1 since last 2 yrs.?
pain was alright but i got a weird feeling that my right leg is longer than the other which makes my body structure bit tilted,,,is it becoz of my herniated disc…any suggestions for any exercise or something…
I’ve herniated L5/S1. The pain in your leg is the result of sciatica. The ruptured disc presses against a nerve that controls some of the feeling in your leg. I have found that core strengthening exercises and stretching greatly helped my sciatica. Abdominal crunches and hamstring stretches helped alot. It’s important to be consistent though. Building these core muscles help to stabilize your back and torso which prevents the discs from further rupturing.
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I know that this sounds kind of crazy but can large breast cause a herniated disk?
I am a 34 year old mother of 2 and i have always had large breast {DDD}. And i have always had problems with my upper back and now i find that i have a herniated disk in my lower back, i have not had a injury or accident so could the large breast be the problem and should i have a reduction
I think herniation is not often from accidents but more often from repetitive stressful use (bending and lifting – people usually think men picking up boxes but in women, picking up babies/children is a BIG stress). I don’t think large breasts can *cause* herniation, but I think carrying around the weight of large breasts can put more strain on the back, so it could possibly contribute.
The breast reduction surgery question is a little harder. Ask your doctor if s/he thinks the breasts were a contributing factor and if s/he would recommend breast surgery, first of all. Then get more information about other factors to consider (infection rate, how long you’ll have to be not active after the surgery) before deciding. (Also take some consideration of whether they’ll be likely to grow large again after surgery. A friend of mine got a breast reduction to a C cup, and within a couple years they were up to a D. She is a little overweight. And she started out as DD or something, so she says she’s still happy with the results. I don’t know what kind of experiences other people have had.)
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My husband has had a bulging disk for a few years now. About a year ago he was in the hospital from it because of intense pain. He was given pain meds which helped and in tie it got better. Now he is having intense pain again. He is having trouble breathing and hurts so bad it is making him throw up. a week ago his doctor gave him pain meds, anti-inflamatory drugs and prescribed PT for a few weeks. They also gave him lidocane patches to put on his back to numb it at night so he could sleep. The anti-inflamatories, pain meds and patches are not working. PT was supposed to start this week, but he is unable to do it b/c the pain is so bad. Doctors don’t want to do surgery because the disc is in his upper spine and they said they would have to go through his lungs which I don’t understand. Any ideas what else they might be able to do? He is young (29) and we have 2 small children at home and he currently can’t spend much time with them b/c he is in such bad pain.
Your husband has a case of pinched muscles in his back that are causing this pain for him and once they are released he should be rid of most of, if not all the pain he is in. I have found out myself that the medical field is ill equipped in such an elementary thing as a pinched muscle, I spent over 25 years in pain myself until I found how to release those muscles. When pinched in the chest area the pains will feel like a truck on his chest because as the muscles tighten up they won’t allow him to take a breath anymore and when he does he can get shooting pains as the ribs do expand putting more pressure on the pinched area. When pinched in the lower back they can put pressure on the nerves going to the stomach which is going to upset it. Here is how he can release the muscles in his back and get rid of the pains:
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Place your left hand on your left leg next to your body. Place your right hand over your left shoulder and find the muscles next to your spine and press on them and hold. After 30 seconds slowly lower your body forward and to the outside of your left leg, keeping your left arm fairly straight as you do. When you reach your lap remain there for another 10 seconds, release the pressure but rest there for another 30 seconds. Then reverse your hand positions and do your right side.
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I had a back injury back in 2006 while on active duty. I had 2 herniated disc L4/L5 and L5/S1 and they caused sciatica and degenerative disc disease. I got out of the army for this. I had a MRI done back in late 2008 showing that I was forming lumbar scoliosis and that discs that never shower up before on out of place. I still get numbness going down the back of my left leg from sitting down too long. I can’t bend backwards or forwards like I used to. My pain has increased and I’ve never had any treatment for my back injury other than steroid injections. What is going on with my back and has it gotten worse since the original injury?
I practice in a military community and see lots of army retirees with the same problems as you. Unfortunately, the military doesn’t perform the highest quality of medical care known to man and they seem more eager to discharge with medical disability for life than actually fix your problems. Their typical answers are pain killers, muscle relaxers, and steroid shots. This is a shame because given the proper therapy at the time (chiropractic, acupuncture, physical therapy, rehabilitation exercises) of injury you could have recovered full (or close to it at least) function and been given a chance at maintaining your back in good shape and avoiding back surgery in the future. Unfortunately, it sounds as though you are heading in a surgical direction and only aggressive therapy will likely prevent that.
Steroids shots do weaken the holding elements in the spine (joint capsules, tendons, muscles) and in my opinion they are borderline malpractice given the research that is present today. Just Google it. Lifetime recommendations are usually 1 shot up to a maximum of 3 shots. I have seen patients in my office that have had over 16 shots in one session! How is that not considered insanity. But you can’t sue military doctors so they can pretty much do whatever they want without repercussions.
Now that your back is essentially “jacked up” the process of deterioration will accelerate. Without proper mobility, stability, and alignment things will wear down as if they would if you had tires that were out of alignment. Now is probably the least of your concerns. What I would be concerned about is how bad the back will be in ten years.
Its time to make a decision now to avoid having a major problems in the future. In your case even waiting another year or two could make a dramatic difference. Eventually you will pass the event horizon and surgery will be your only option and your outcome from that surgery isn’t guaranteed.
I recommend you suck it up financially and find a good team of chiro, physical therapy, and massage therapy, and maybe even acupuncturist that will work together for YOU! It’ll be an investment but after 12 weeks you should see an improvement. If you improve keep up with the conservative care until you feel 70-100% better and then maintain it. If after 12 weeks you aren’t much better than surgery is your option and get it done now while the problem is less. because in 5 years it’ll be a much more extensive repair than it is right now. And stay away from needles and shots unless its an acupuncture needle.
I hope this helps.
Dr. Shane Conrad DC, CCSP, CSCS
Doctor of Chiropractic
abdominal exercises that dont put any strain on the back?
i used to play sports, but am kinda out of shape now. I would like to get back into shape however im not allowed to do situps or any other abdominal muscle exercises that i know of as i have a partially herniated disk (slipped disk) on the L5-S1. Im not allowed to go jogging either! I really would appreciate it if anyone could give me some ideeas or advise. i have now had this back problem for 3 years with no sign of healing up so far after i have respected all the advise i have been given from doctors!! Thanks
Please only serious answers…not that the laughing one wasnt funny it’s just that it doesnt really help the matter. also my situation doesnt really make me feel like laughin a lot!
Many people are in the same boat as you in this regard. They want to tone up the abdominals without putting strain on their back–the lower back especially. A lot of people do sit-ups the wrong way, putting additional pressure on their lower backs.
Please click on the link below to watch a very good video about the proper way to do sit-ups and crunches without hurting your back.
You are right–this is no laughing matter for you, but I hope you can smile after doing abdominal exercises that work and don’t hurt your back.
Also, make your posture is good when you sit or stand. Keep a straight back. When you lift things, always bend with your legs and pick them up with your legs, not your back. Additionally, you should try the stomach vacuum periodically when sitting for long periods of time, like when you’re driving long distances. Click on the second link below for instructions.
Did anyone got treatment for herniated disc’s by ozone therapy. Please share your experiences.?
I got herniated disc’s in L4-L5 and L5-S1 and i had gone to physical Therapy and Chiropractor and already took epidural injection once and i am going to take another one tommorow. I was reading online about Ozone Therapy that is practised mostly in European countries and India. There are different methods like discosan mentod, Verga Method and ozonenucleosis in india. I am interested in trying the ozone therapy.
There are many articles on internet very less feedback from actual patients. If you have got treated with some kind of Ozone Therapy for herniated disc then please share your experience about the recovery and after therapy life. Did the disc’s got healed completely?
“Ozone therapy” is one of the latest scams out there.
If it worked, then you’d be offered this in hospitals or by your doctor. There is absolutely no evidence that it has any benefits whatsoever.
Don’t get conned; consult a properly qualified medical doctor or specialist.
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I am 18 and have a herniated disc at L4-L5. Should I get surgery?
I have tried everything– from physical therapy to epidural shots and i still suffer from excruating pain. I have had this problem for almost two years and it has come down to the option of surgery. I don’t want to do it because I feel to young to have a microdiscectomy. I have talked to numerous doctors/surgeons but I keep getting the same advice. What should I do?
If it’s a full blown herniation, and you’ve given it two years, it’s not likely to heal by itself. However, the people who tend to do best with surgery are those who:
A. Have more leg pain than back pain (in fact, they often have no back pain at all)
B. Their pain goes away or signficiantly lessens upon sitting or lying but comes back the instant they stand
C. L5/S-1 problems do better than L4/L5 problems
D. The surgery is done within the first 10 weeks.
If A & B still describe you, I think you’d still benefit from surgery. A microdiscectomy is a pretty easy recovery. Leg pain usually subsides instantly or within a few days after the surgery. Minimal physical therapy (if at all) is required, people are usually back to work in a couple weeks to four weeks (depending on what they do).
If this doesn’t describe you, I’d also consider the following:
1. What did your therapy consist of? If it included nothing but modalities or “core stabilization”, I’d consider seeing a physical therapist who is certified in mechanical diagnosis and therapy. www.mckenziemdt.org It’s a different way of problem solving that is very evidence based. However, most physical therapists do not understand this. Seeing someone who is certified in the method can assure you that you should get a very honest prognosis. If they can’t help you, it will be evident very quickly.
2. Some form of traction or decompression therapy. I would only do this if your leg pain is not severe and doesn’t always go past the knee. If you are like A & B above, I would NOT do this therapy.
Sciatic Nerve Symptoms: Number of Warning Signs You Should Watch Out
The sciatic nerve is the largest nerve in the body, which extends from each side of lower spine through rear and back of the thigh and then down to foot. This vein connects the spinal cord with leg and foot muscles. When there is an irritation or compression of the nerve roots in the lower spine, it may result in sciatic pain. The most common cause of sciatic pain is an irritation of L5 or S1 nerve root in the lower spine by the herniated disc.
Gunshot wounds, fractures of pelvis and other trauma to buttocks or thigh most commonly injure the sciatic nerve. The systemic diseases like diabetes may damage it. Due to this, the pain radiates into the rear and extends down back of the thigh and calf. Occasionally, it may extend down to the foot. Tingling, numbness and prickling or burning sensation are the most common sciatic nerve symptoms.
In most cases, a simple irritation to the sciatic nerve is the main cause of sciatic pain, which may be healed with time. However, some sciatic nerve symptoms may indicate somewhat serious injury to sciatic nerve.
- If numbness or weakness is present, the sciatic nerve may be damaged and you need to seek medical attention. If the pain and symptoms are extremely severe due to compressed nerve, you may need to undergo surgery.
- If there is incontinence of bowel or bladder or progressive weakness or loss of sensation in legs, then it indicates a serious condition, which requires immediate medical attention.
Generally, sciatic nerve symptoms affect one side of the body. The pain may be sharp or dull and burning or it may be accompanied by the intermittent shocks of shooting pain that starts at the buttock extending down to back of the thigh and leg. Sciatic pain then extends below the knee and may be experienced in the feet. There may be numbness and tingling in the leg. Patient may feel it very difficult and painful sitting and trying to stand up. The pain may be intensified with coughing and sneezing.
One of the most common sciatic nerve symptoms is similar to the pain that occurs during a severe leg cramp, such as extreme pain in low back extending to one buttock and down the leg. Pain generally worsens on bending forward or exertion. There may be numbness and weakness in the leg as well as diminution of the reflexes. Pain may be so severe that the lower back gets locked in sideways position resulted from a strong contraction. True sciatic pain occurs due to compression of sciatic nerve roots because of herniated lumbar disc.
In case of longstanding history of sciatic pain, the pain may gradually get localized to the buttocks and back of the leg. In such situation, the patient may experience a vague aching pain, which does not extend to the lower leg or foot.
Usually, patient’s history and physical examination are the important part of diagnosis of sciatic pain. Various treatment options such as medications, physical therapy, exercises etc. focus on relieving pain and manage the symptoms.
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If you have experimented with the more standard herniated disc treatment, and wish to try something new, it may be well worth considering the traditional Chinese therapy of acupuncture. Acupuncture is perhaps the most popular form of traditional oriental medicine, and it has proven to be quite effective for treatment of a herniated disc and the sciatic pain associated. Further to this the acupuncture can also relieve spinal stenosis, lower back pain, spine root compression, neck pain, neuropathy and other irritating and debilitating diseases.
In some cases Chinese herbs and acupuncture have been proven to be more effective, less risky and less invasive in comparison to more common forms of treatment for a herniated disc such as surgery and oral steroids. Side effects associated with drugs for treating a herniated disc is a common reason for people experimenting with acupuncture.
Acupuncture tends to be even more effective when it is utilized upon the onset of the initial symptoms of a herniated disc such as back spasms and cramps. If the condition of the herniated disc is more severe, often acupuncture will be teamed with traditional Chinese herbal remedies to assist in the recovery process. Further to this the longer lasting effects of acupuncture are realized through combining the treatment with physical therapy and exercises. When acupuncture is delivered correctly there can also be additional benefits for the patient- such as an improvement in mood and less fatigue.
It is very important for one’s recommended doctor or physician to assess the degree of damage involved in the herniated disc and associated sciatica pain, before considering acupuncture as an effective treatment for the herniated disc.
It is a frightening statistic that more than half of the US adult population experience or are affected by sciatica pain. It is that burning pain from the lower back down to the feet caused by the compression of the sciatic nerve resulting in most instances in a herniated disc. The normal reaction for sufferers of a herniated disc and sciatic pain is too improve the posture and walk and site more upright. This however can increase the pressure on the problem area, resulting in further discomfort. It is quite common that, with age and poor nutrition, the back bone and its muscles and other essential body parts deteriorate and breakdown, and factors like overexertion, accidents, diseases, and bad posture all result in back problems.
Acupuncture as a herniated disc treatment when performed as early as possible has been shown to rapidly improve recovery time and ease sciatica pain significantly. Research has shown that the acupuncture stimulates the damaged area of the spine creating naturally occurring steroids encouraging it to repair and producing valuably endorphins in the body. In this natural way the swelling is minimized and the pain of the herniated disc is eased. This dual effect from the acupuncture is why is can be so effective
Conclusion
The benefits of acupuncture often vary from patient to patient and are also very dependent on the person administering the acupuncture. Always seek you doctor or physician’s advice before getting acupuncture treatment for a herniated disc and sciatica pain. Acupuncture is certainly a far more positive option for treating a herniated disc than surgery and more serious oral steroids.
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A herniated disc is a common cause of pain in the lower back. When the discs that cushion the vertebrae in the spine bulge out of place, they can rupture, and put pressure on the nerve roots.
When this happens, it results in varying degrees of pain in the back. Herniated discs can also cause pain, weakness, and numbness in the lower extremities of the body.
A herniated disc can happen anywhere in the spine, but ruptured discs typically happen in the lower back. This type of back injury is more common in people ages 35 and older. Here are some common causes and treatments for a herniated disc in the back.
Causes of a Herniated Disc
As you age, the fluid in the intervertebral discs that help maintain flexibility in the spine starts to disappear. When this happens, the discs become less pliable, and more prone to tears. And because the discs are already vulnerable to damage, the consistent pressure from everyday wear and tear can cause them to bulge out and rupture.
Some everyday activities that can cause the kind of stress on the spine that leads to slipped discs can include slumping, heavy lifting, repetitive movements, sleeping in awkward positions, being overweight, lack of exercise, and twisting and bending motions. Accidents, impacts, and falls that result in trauma to the spine can also cause herniated discs.
The herniated disc putting pressure on the nerves roots is what actually causes the pain in the back. And sometimes a slipped disc can affect other parts of the body, too. If the disc puts pressure on the sciatic nerve, it can cause a condition known as sciatica. This condition causes a burning sensation, and a painful pins-and-needle type feeling to shoot from the lower back all the way down the distance of the legs, hips, and calves.
Herniated Discs Treatments
Herniated discs are painful, and can interfere with your daily activities. But if you refrain from activities and movements that aggravate, or worsen the herniated disc, it will usually resolve itself over time. Heat and cold packs can be applied to the affected area to help relax the muscles, and ease spasms.
Anti-inflammatory or oral steroid medications may be prescribed by your doctor to reduce inflammation, and relieve pressure on the nerves. Depending on your situation, your doctor may decide to administer steroid injections directly to the affected area.
In truly severe cases where other treatments are not effective, surgery may be required. However, surgery for a herniated disc is a serious procedure, so it is often used as a last resort.
With your doctor’s approval, you can start implementing gentle back stretches, and exercises to regain your flexibility, strengthen your core muscles, and reduce your risk of future herniated discs.
A herniated disc can be painful to deal with, and it can interfere with the quality of your life. But with a little rest, the application of heat and cold packs, gentle exercises, and medications to reduce inflammation, you’ll be back into the swing of things in no time.
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